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Posted by SeedyROM on July 13, 2008 at 4:16 PM
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In Reply To omg will you please give the whole Z1 is so bad thing a rest posted by Killer ZTT on July 13, 2008 at 09:52 AM
     
Message Believe me, we're ALL sick of seeing it and for those of you that know the TT.net history here, you need not read any further. For those that don't, we persist:

-Because people keep going there and getting burned and if they don't see the continual problems, they wont ever learn
-Because most other forums are edited or driven by sponsor money which doesn't allow people to be honest about bad experiences (negative posts are removed)
-Because we want to support companies that have exceptional service and support, not the "Walmart of Z32s"
-Because their entire company was launched by TT.net and they repeatedly burned that bridge. *See below for detail.
-Because we went through the exact same thing with a company called Stillen, who had great parts at one point but burned people left and right. [ http://www.stillensucks.com/ ] exists as a shrine to part of that ordeal. Eventually people mostly forgot about them and they went onto other car scenes.

Aside from the facts above, for years we've had to deal with Z1 fanboys telling us:
-That these problems didn't exist. (4-5 years ago)
-That problems exist but it's part of a growing company. (3 years ago)
-That Russell the issues were isolated and Russell would hire good workers. (2 years ago)
-That okay, we admit they have major issues but "I'm still going to give them my money". (1 year ago to today)
So when does it end?

Now they have grown so big, have given us so much lip service and have spit out so many excuses that there's nothing else to say or do. All that's left is to milk the market for cheap knockoff parts and slowly fade away like Stillen did from the Z32 scene. Until that has happened, people will be allowed and encouraged to be honest about their bad experiences. It's not that hard to skip to the next message.


*Consisting of direct threats to the owners of this site (about moderators, policies, etc). Followed by abusing the forum VTD feature to hide past complaints. Later indirect threats on 300Degree.com's parts business if they "didn't deliver product in time" their innovations would be copied. Guess who runs 300Degree.com?


Avoid Z1 Motorsports - Hacked our forum to delete years of proof about service complaints, questionable ethics and lies about inventing products.
Avoid AMS Products - Killing Z32 product innovation, one quickly copied, questionable Chinese part at a time.
SoCalZCrew.com - On a more positive note, come find out how we do it in the West!

     
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